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undertook to strip and ran nude at Olympia, at the fifteenth Olympiad, was
Acanthus the Lacedaemonian.'14
There is a rival convention told by Pausanias about Orsippos of Megara, "who
won a foot-race at Olympia running nude at a time when athletes used to wear
There's a Hellenistic epitaph about Orsippos that
was inscribed on the sportsman's tomb in Megara saying that he was the first of the
Greeks in Olympia crowned nude and that before him all athletes girded
It really is obvious that the Megarians were making a
counterclaim to Sparta's and needed to demonstrate that a native of Megara was the
first nude victor. The story about Orsippos appears ambiguous and doubtful
since there are several different stories about his performance in the race.
Based on the Homeric scholiasts (on Iliad 23.683) Orsippos not only lost
the race but he tripped, fell, and expired when his loincloth came adrift. A distinct
tale mentions Orsippos not as a winner in the race but as a loser because he
became entangled in his short pants.5
Another tradition points to the Athenians as the inventors of nudity in
Sports. A runner, according to this tale, leading the field lost ground and fell
4. Thucydides 1.5.6. Cambridge, Mass. and London, 1928) Trans. by Charles
1928) Trans.
5. Pausanias 1.44.1. (The Penguin Classics.
https:/s3.amazonaws.com/viva-naturist/family-nudism-photos.html en Grce Classique: Propos Politique, Discours Mythiques,"Revue des Erudes Anciennes 81 (1979):
Attic stamnos of the late 6th century B.C., E. https://s3.amazonaws.com/ff-naturist/beach-sex.html of the Ancient
because his shorts floated freely down to his legs; so the Athenian archon
Hippomenes in order to prevent any return of the accident, enforced, by
law, that all men later on should exercise nude.6
Thus while nearly all traditional sources impute nudity in sport as early
as the 8th century B.C., Plato and Thucydides believed that it happened not
long before their own age.
athletes girded themselves during their athletic competitions. These three
citations prompted some scholars to conclude that nudity wasn't a practice
among the Mycenaean Greeks, supposing that Homer described in his epics
Mycenaean sport practices. But there's enough evidence to show that many of
the games and athletic practices described in Homer's epics were anachronistically introduced by the poet into his epic poems. The Homeric epics, it has
been pointed out, represented fit practices of many ages, including the
poet's.7 It becomes clear that the Homeric athletes girded themselves for the
contact occasions. Regrettably the poet did not say anything about loincloths for
6. lsidoros Source. Et. 18.172.
7. See Iliad 23. 685; 23. 710; Odyssey 18.76; John Mouratidis, "Greek Sports, Games and Festivals Before
the Eighth Century B.C." (Ph.D. diss., The Ohio State University, 1982). pp. 193.219, 235-237.
Origin of Nudity in Greek Sport
the other games. Do we have to assume that they contended naked in these
Occasions? It is hard to say. https://s3.amazonaws.com/ff-naturist/young-nudist.html might well imply the Homeric references to
loincloths in sports represent a practice of the poet's own time since the substance
Signs shows that nudity wasn't unknown in Mycenaean Greece.
It is possible that Ionia, Homer's own birthplace, was influenced by the existing practice in the asian world. In the time of Herodotos (5th century B .C.), the
Lydians, and barbarians in general, considered that it was a shame for a man to be
seen nude. This Anatolian approach towards nudity was seemingly shared, to
some extent, by the Greeks who lived in areas under Anatolian sway. An
Indicator of this influence is that the inhabitants of the shore of Asia Minor
borrowed and acquired various components of asian dress in addition to various hair
Designs.
and the long-sleeved chiton were adopted by the Phrygians and Ionian Greeks
during the interval of Persian rule.8 Furthermore the magnificent Ionian garments that
Herodotos often describes were rather characteristic of the asian world.
Some writers point to Thersites to demonstrate that to be seen nude was considered
indecent in the Mycenaean or Homeric times. Thersites was threatened by Odysseus with the public degradation of running naked to the Greek boats. This
punishment must have been a black and humiliating one, but this must have
Acanthus the Lacedaemonian.'14
There is a rival convention told by Pausanias about Orsippos of Megara, "who
won a foot-race at Olympia running nude at a time when athletes used to wear
There's a Hellenistic epitaph about Orsippos that
was inscribed on the sportsman's tomb in Megara saying that he was the first of the
Greeks in Olympia crowned nude and that before him all athletes girded
It really is obvious that the Megarians were making a
counterclaim to Sparta's and needed to demonstrate that a native of Megara was the
first nude victor. The story about Orsippos appears ambiguous and doubtful
since there are several different stories about his performance in the race.
Based on the Homeric scholiasts (on Iliad 23.683) Orsippos not only lost
the race but he tripped, fell, and expired when his loincloth came adrift. A distinct
tale mentions Orsippos not as a winner in the race but as a loser because he
became entangled in his short pants.5
Another tradition points to the Athenians as the inventors of nudity in
Sports. A runner, according to this tale, leading the field lost ground and fell
4. Thucydides 1.5.6. Cambridge, Mass. and London, 1928) Trans. by Charles
1928) Trans.
5. Pausanias 1.44.1. (The Penguin Classics.
https:/s3.amazonaws.com/viva-naturist/family-nudism-photos.html en Grce Classique: Propos Politique, Discours Mythiques,"Revue des Erudes Anciennes 81 (1979):
Attic stamnos of the late 6th century B.C., E. https://s3.amazonaws.com/ff-naturist/beach-sex.html of the Ancient
because his shorts floated freely down to his legs; so the Athenian archon
Hippomenes in order to prevent any return of the accident, enforced, by
law, that all men later on should exercise nude.6
Thus while nearly all traditional sources impute nudity in sport as early
as the 8th century B.C., Plato and Thucydides believed that it happened not
long before their own age.
athletes girded themselves during their athletic competitions. These three
citations prompted some scholars to conclude that nudity wasn't a practice
among the Mycenaean Greeks, supposing that Homer described in his epics
Mycenaean sport practices. But there's enough evidence to show that many of
the games and athletic practices described in Homer's epics were anachronistically introduced by the poet into his epic poems. The Homeric epics, it has
been pointed out, represented fit practices of many ages, including the
poet's.7 It becomes clear that the Homeric athletes girded themselves for the
contact occasions. Regrettably the poet did not say anything about loincloths for
6. lsidoros Source. Et. 18.172.
7. See Iliad 23. 685; 23. 710; Odyssey 18.76; John Mouratidis, "Greek Sports, Games and Festivals Before
the Eighth Century B.C." (Ph.D. diss., The Ohio State University, 1982). pp. 193.219, 235-237.
Origin of Nudity in Greek Sport
the other games. Do we have to assume that they contended naked in these
Occasions? It is hard to say. https://s3.amazonaws.com/ff-naturist/young-nudist.html might well imply the Homeric references to
loincloths in sports represent a practice of the poet's own time since the substance
Signs shows that nudity wasn't unknown in Mycenaean Greece.
It is possible that Ionia, Homer's own birthplace, was influenced by the existing practice in the asian world. In the time of Herodotos (5th century B .C.), the
Lydians, and barbarians in general, considered that it was a shame for a man to be
seen nude. This Anatolian approach towards nudity was seemingly shared, to
some extent, by the Greeks who lived in areas under Anatolian sway. An
Indicator of this influence is that the inhabitants of the shore of Asia Minor
borrowed and acquired various components of asian dress in addition to various hair
Designs.
and the long-sleeved chiton were adopted by the Phrygians and Ionian Greeks
during the interval of Persian rule.8 Furthermore the magnificent Ionian garments that
Herodotos often describes were rather characteristic of the asian world.
Some writers point to Thersites to demonstrate that to be seen nude was considered
indecent in the Mycenaean or Homeric times. Thersites was threatened by Odysseus with the public degradation of running naked to the Greek boats. This
punishment must have been a black and humiliating one, but this must have
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